hitType: 'event', For me, I think controversies and hate are just the unfortunate and difficult side that comes with being an idol. Dark smudges of makeup were put on her face to represent dirt that the beggar character had on him, and people accused her of doing blackface for it, even though she was portraying a Korean character, and not someone of African descent. } And it manifested almost solely around Hwasa who since the very beginning has received the bulk of the hate. It is continued bashing and harassment of four girls, who for all accounts dont deserve it. I'm a fairly new Mamamoo fan and I was hearing a lot about them being super problematic towards black people(so being black) I decided to some research to find out. ), but I think if you look at all other successful idol groups too, there is always something similar with controversies and hate there as well. }); ga('ads.send', { Personally, I come from a Chinese household with really racist, sexist, misogynistic, and homophobic beliefs. Others, despite agreeing that Hwasa was at fault, thought the questions were taking it too far. They're also one of the very few idol groups where everyone has expressed that they're supportive of the LGBT+ community, which is huge especially in such a conservative country like South Korea. my bias is varied between moonbyul and solar Hip is one of my most played songs ever You must log in or register to reply here. I'm pretty sure that a lot of people have heard of the blackface scandal. I forgot how toxic Kpop fans can be Like you all know, Mamamoo has a pretty small fan base (internationally) compared to some other idol groups. i just dont love all the stuff they say/do. I very strongly believe that people can change and one action doesnt define them for the rest of their life, and if I dont include an apology in a post, its always going to be because I didnt know they apologised. okay so people seemed to find my exo masterpost pretty helpful and Im very aware that suju arent exactly the least offensive group around, so (since the YFIP one isnt very up-to-date) I thought Id make a super junior masterpost since Im a suju fan and I want to provide helpful resources for other fans. We will not waver; we will not tire; we will not falter, and we will not fail. if you want to complain about me making this or ask me why i did, please read this first, honestly i will not respond to anyone who has not read this first. Personally, from the time that I've been a fan, Mamamoo has usually apologized/acted contrite for any controversies that they've caused. ourbridgeisforever:. They are definitely not out to hurt anybody, that I know for sure. But that explanation was also not bought by many. One fan shared a detailed card about it along with the message, "And if anybody wants to get brave about their past mistakes, heres a link with receipts and explanations. Mamamoo are good, genuine people. My anxiety and paranoia are bad enough as it is but they shoot up every time I post on here, leaving me feeling sick when I cant check my inbox (or when I have lots of messages) and paranoid that everybody hates me/this blog. Im not really sure what else to say, if anyone wants to talk to me about it, thats fine. It is absurd. You dont owe them anything in the lines of forgiveness, especially if you were one of the people they personally hurt with their past actions. They've made mistakes in the past, but they're learning and growing through their experiences. They're also one of the very few idol groups where everyone has expressed that they're supportive of the LGBT+ community, which is huge especially in such a conservative country like South Korea. The Official MAMAMOO 18+ Thread - The Bar (18+) - OneHallyu Hello everyone, in honor of MAMAMOOs super awesome comeback for their sassy title track, Um Ah Oh Yeh, from their Pinky Funky mini album, I have decided to create a 18+ thread for the sexy ladies of MAMAMOO. A subreddit for the four member kpop group, MAMAMOO! I did include apologies though, such as Shindongs, Kangins and Zhoumis. i love exo. Its kinda iffy, and as a trans & queer person it definitely rubs me the wrong way :-//. To discuss the bullying and harassment Mamamoo now receives daily, we must first lay out what originally brought out all the hate. eventAction: 'view' }); Ive said before that my intent is to provide information, and that should include context and possible explanations, and Im sorry it didnt. It's harder to get exposed to these issues that we know about under their circumstances, but once Mamamoo comes across them and understand, they'll learn from it. And that isnt even getting into the worst of it. Firstly, Im fairly sure I missed stuff, but also, a lot of it is somewhat interpretational. That worried him. In 2017, Mamamoo created an ending concert video for moos (their fans), where they did a parody of Bruno Mars Uptown Funk. Explore the latest videos from hashtags: #mamamooproblematic, #mamamooegotistic, #mamaproblematica, # . Feels bad yo. Everyone is allowed to make mistakes and with those mistakes, come the opportunity to correct them. Honestly there is nothing wrong with what they said. Hwasa in 2015 said the n word in a show where she was given the lyrics but being a non English speaker she clearly didn't know what she was saying. She made her solo debut with the single "Spit It Out" on April 23, 2020.She released her first extended play : Face with its . The callout, this time, however, was linked to the singer's inclusion of Latin-themed elements in her song's lyrics and music. Please put a * at the end of the message if you don't want it published. The controversies surrounding Mamamoo sometimes hurt for sure, because you can tell that theyre pretty genuine in who they are without putting on too much of a show, arent out to get or hurt anyone, and are capable of realizing when they have made mistakes. Because of mistakes that they've made out of ignorance, mistakes that they've apologized for. I have a tendency to get a bit defensive and come across as rude/mocking/patronising/self righteous when I dont mean to, which Im trying to work on, but its hard to tell when Im doing it, so I try to avoid argument a lot. document.querySelector("#adunit").addEventListener('click',function(){ A lot seem to be taken out of context and exaggerated. As Ive said before, I dont know everything, and I try to provide sources for what I post, but Im a bit cynical and I can sometimes put too much trust into what other people say, so please, please, please call me out if you notice me spreading misinformation (it will always be appreciated) and I will update the masterpost. when Lay said, When asked about his ideal type, said that she, He and Chen chose Kai and Tao as the members they wouldnt want to date if they were girls, when Chen was explaining why, Xiumin interrupted him and saidThey both have a similarity, theyre both tanned (, Posted a photograph of him in a face mask on Weibo and captioned it, Apparently there were some old online comments from Baekhyuns cyworld account where he called girls at his High School sluts but I cant find any screenshots, Chanyeol and Baekhyun apparently admitted to teasing the Chinese members at first for their pronunciation/korean and acted somewhat cold towards them, though I cannot find a source for this, Many people have said Chanyeol said his ideal type would have white/pale skin but I cant find a source on that so Im not sure, Some people have told me that Kris is sexist/misogynistic but I cant find anything about this online, I also vaguely remember seeing a picture of exo which one of the members wrote comments on and there was something about Kais skin being dark but I cant remember who it was (possibly Kai himself?) Yes I should have looked into the Siwon stuff more, because when you watch the video, you can tell he said afterwards that he was joking. The Radish Farm (Mamamoo Thread) This is going to be safe space for everyone who wants to talk about Mamamoo. Yeah, the first thing international fans do is hear that Mamamoo is bad and that they shouldn't like them, and then they jump in on the hate without doing their own research. We hope that you will help to educate us on these and other issues so that we can become better people and better artists.. Hope that all made sense! And then later on she includes a list of problematic things that her favourite (boy) group has done and it's literally 3x as long. Korean girl group Mamamoo apologized Saturday after a video clip aired at their concert that featured the quartet in blackface. ", which culture did u enjoy appropriaing the most #AskHwasapic.twitter.com/x6WYr2VeJa, Can we have a spoiler? Red Velvet too. My mom would like to know" while another asked, "Is mama Africa a good name for you? 6)not excusing it or defending it but [continues to make an excuse for Henry] Sorry, but yes, you are trying to make up excuses for him. There are many areas where I am still ignorant and I think I have a bit of an issue with talking over people, a bad habit I really need to break. Im getting upset the more I think about it lol but really its just a lot of misconceptions; sometimes culturally and linguistically, that Americans like to hold a grudge against. You need to Register or Login to view the content. : ) : ) Wow! I promise you it wasnt a group thing. I will try to work on this in the future because I dont want to portray idols as villains when theyre not actually responsible for what has happened (e.g. In the way that we see them care for each other and their fans concerns, I really dont see how they could MEAN to hurt anyones feelings with how they might act at times. The thing is, it is not just another joke. I dont know how familiar you are with vixx, but N is constantly put down by hisfriends about his appearance (specifically his skin color) and one of the things Kangin criticised him for was his self confidence, which honestly, was really, really rude and definitely uncalled for. It genuinely makes me sad that the kpop community hasn't changed since I left it in 2014 which is why I'm so reluctant to jump back into it and only really here to support MAMAMOO. Solar will previal . The thing to note here is that Hwasa is not fluent in English. For those of you who might not know, Mamamoo is a four girl idol group who debuted under RBW (Rainbowbridge World) in June of 2014. },false) I dont know if youre Korean or not (your blog doesnt say) but if you arent, I consider everything youve said invalid information. its good(, When asked who their ideal types would be if the other members were girls, Chen chose Luhan and Chanyeol chose D.O and Lay then took the microphone to clarify that they were not gay by saying, A similar incident occurred at a concert(?) But she probably could not have predicted that an #AskHwasa hashtag could have drawn out some of the worst Twitter drags in recent times. Posts: 337. Mamamoo Has Been Receiving Hate Storms- And It's Only Getting Worse. Siwon seems like a genuinely nice guy, and its really unfortunate that people keep spreading the rumour that hes homophobic, and Im ashamed to be one of the people who contributed to this. 1. I didnt really spend a huge amount of time on that Super Junior post and I didnt properly think about the way I was phrasing things, or the information I was including. but its hard not to be. I've researched it online and all I see are hate comments, especially towards Solar and Wheein. Press J to jump to the feed. Its much appreciated :-), Im KOREAN TOO, and shes lying, i will post a video with the REAL ONE and gonna call you out too.-. People are accusing me of purposefully portraying all the members on the list as villains and not including their apologies. In the show, there are co-cast members Par Na Rae and Han Ye Jin. Thats not fair to them at all and makes absolutely no sense. If you have anything else you wanna add/say, my ask box is open, but I probably wont reply until tomorrow because I really need to go to bed. I think its kind of childish and irresponsible to exaggerate information and twist the truth just to justify your own personal dislike for a person, without regard for out it may affect them or their fans. if he just said that he wasshocked because he thought they were gay/trans, then its iffy. Someone texted back, Its about to get worse, they will try to trend another hate tweet. eventAction: 'click_adunit' 18 Jan 2023, 08:31 PM . So girls have to be skinny and boys can be Taken aback by their remarks, Shindong quickly explained, Im just saying. Official MAMAMOO Thread cntrljinsung Jul 1, 2019 hwasa mamamoo moomoo moonbyul solar wheein MAMAMOO bais? From their raunchy and raw fashion choices to wearing blackface to sing Bruno Mars - let's look back at the highs and the lows as the outspoken quartet celebrate their 6th anniversary as a band So many public figures coming out and vouching for Mamamoos talent and success only continues to prove their worth and value to the world. The ring around her mouth: Now a ring around someones mouth was something drawn back in the days of blackface to emphasize big lips. After Wendys tragic and heartbreaking fall, immediately there were dozens upon dozens of tweets wishing Hwasa could take her place and become horribly injured. I never thought it would gain the traction that it did and I dont feel comfortable running it at the moment, Im sorry. Moomoos are also quite reserved and a bit more mature so whenever Mamamoo is criticized, you have a small group of people rationally trying to defend them. I recently fell in love with these girls again after I took a break from kpop. This resulted in people calling her out as dressing like a black stereotype, and complaining that she was even wearing blackface again, despite the fact that she had no heavily darker makeup on, and was simply rocking her naturally darker skin. I dont make these lists with the intent of ruining the idols image or spreading misinformation (which by the way, if I do again, please call me out on it because otherwise I have no other way of knowing). also please read this before trying to contact me about any of this. The other day it was revealed that two major idols were dating, and before I had even seen the news article, I was in a Mamamoo fan group-chat, and someone sent out the link of the dating news with their comment under being, be on high alert for hwasas tags. 21 Jan 2023, 03:11 AM . document.querySelector("#ads").addEventListener('click',function(){ In the age of the Internet, in the age where absolutely anything can be done online, your actions online matter. Theres no point calling people too sensitive, especially when the stuff pointed out causes many problems, for fans and also the members themselves (for example, Kai has shown numerous times that he is upset by/fed up with the comments on his skin). So those are the most controversial things talked about that Mamamoo has done. Even if it was a joke or a passing, it wasnt very funny. Now you may be wondering, this dating news had absolutely nothing to do with Mamamoo, why were Moos suddenly preparing for a new war against Hwasa hate comments? A quick list (that is nowhere near all) of the vocal famous Mamamoo fans include: JYP (founder of JYPE), Yoo Hee Yeol (Host of Sketchbook), Im Chang Jung (senior ballad singer), Lee Hyori (senior solo artist), Hyuna (solo artist), Seulgi (of Red Velvet), Lee Dahee (actress), Wang Bitna (actress), and Kim Hyesoo (actress). | by unchangingtruth | Medium Write Sign up Sign In 500 Apologies, but something went wrong on our end. Hwasa trolled for past racism as #AskHwasa trends, Internet asks which ethnicity she will 'offend' next. Yet we wonder why idols have to constantly showcase an "image" in order to not upset fans. #AskHwasa. 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